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of policy from the united states. >> from the u.s. now, there is no agreement with russia. russia is rearming assad, propping up the regime, and that was the contentious part of today's meeting. but what kerry seemed to be hinting at is that under pressure from the brits and certainly from the syrian opposition which initially said that they would not meet in rome with him in a couple of days, he called them and persuaded them saying show up, we've got something for you. this meeting will be worth your while. what he said to us is this is a right moment. it is a new secretary of state. it is a president on a second term. wait and see what happens. now -- >> you were staying that hillary clinton, leon panetta both wanted to arm the syrian rebel wrshz. >> arm some of them. >> the president vetoed it. you think he is telegraphing something. >> i think he thinks he is telegraphing something. i think he may think he has more running room than he has. we've seen that the white house really controls foreign policy more than the state department. hillary clinton didn't challenge that. she
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